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Post by Envy Thu 18 Mar 2010, 9:48 am

hey guys, I saw Nero and Pauke and DeoX making maps, so I was wondering where to get the editor and which one is best to use? If you could also tell me how to install it that would be great.

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Post by DeoX Fri 19 Mar 2010, 1:37 am

There is a map making editor in your savage folder. Open editor.bat and create a new map Smile


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Post by Adam Shootyperson Fri 19 Mar 2010, 1:51 am

Dude, I tried making maps. When you screw it, you'll wanna throw your pc through the window.
I mean, I have tried doing loads but then I screw up and never ttry again Razz
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Post by Nero Fri 19 Mar 2010, 3:01 am

the easyest way is using a hieghtmap. thers a turotial on that. The hardest and most boring part are the ocluders. But dont explect to throw out a map in 2 hours, a good map takes a day of work. and ad one for debugig and testing
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Post by Pauke Fri 19 Mar 2010, 6:27 am

I never used tutorial , i discovered everything by myself and created my own style so , i think you must do same , so you'll discover and use the editor faster , but you need one or two weeks of training before starting a map , good luck Smile
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Post by Adam Shootyperson Fri 19 Mar 2010, 8:49 am

You never used Tutorial ? I showed you Cola's Tutorial on H-L Forums.

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Post by Envy Fri 19 Mar 2010, 9:10 am

Cool thanks guys
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Post by Adam Shootyperson Sat 20 Mar 2010, 12:06 am

ENVY. I can show you Cola's Tutorial. It's not a video, it's a web page.
Everything's very clear and easy to understand. You want it ?
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Post by Envy Sat 20 Mar 2010, 10:24 pm

ye maybez. one last thing, when i open editor, it coems up with eden 2. how do i get a blank map?
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Post by Pauke Sat 20 Mar 2010, 10:27 pm

I didn't used it because it's a tuto for SFE editor , the XR is quite different Smile and i only use XR
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Post by Adam Shootyperson Sun 21 Mar 2010, 9:27 pm

I'm going to show you ENVY. Cola explains everything Smile

EDIT : Tutorial by Cola is in French... You want it ?
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Post by Aneurysm Mon 21 Jun 2010, 4:21 am

Envy,

I very strongly recommend reading tutorials, despite what Pauke has said, there is a lot to learn and it is made many times easier by reading other map makers hard won experience.

Below is a couple of links, if you spend some time reading and absorbing the information, you will find you will make much quicker progress than stumbling around alone in the editor.

http://www.evolvedserver.com/savagemapping/
(this guide is written for SFE however it is still mostly relevant... only some of the GUI has changed, and it is a really well written guide)



http://www.newerth.com/smf/index.php/topic,8427.0.html
(this is a link to a thread overon has made which combines a multitude of resources into the once compact post)


http://www.newerth.com/smf/index.php/topic,8652.0.html
(this is a thread showing my personal binds and outlining their uses, it is INVALUABLE to making mapping faster/easier and more professional)

I am also in the process of working on an XR editor guide, its only about 40% complete at the moment, but keep your eyes peeled because it will hopefully help you all understand the mapping process much better.
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Post by Envy Tue 22 Jun 2010, 11:57 pm

I am currently using the Rmod map editor.... can you give me some advice?
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Post by Aneurysm Wed 23 Jun 2010, 3:47 am

Envy wrote:I am currently using the Rmod map editor.... can you give me some advice?

Rmod only changes the GUI of the editor. So all the principals are exactly the same as the XR editor and SFE editor. To be honest I prefer the XR editors GUI anyway. However the links I have provided you with don't change, they are just as useful with Rmod as they are with XR or SFE.
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Post by Adam Shootyperson Wed 23 Jun 2010, 9:58 pm

I tried making maps but my problem is that, I think the map is good, then I try to make it better, better, better, better and it becomes a piece of s**t at the end Sad
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Post by Aneurysm Wed 23 Jun 2010, 11:19 pm

Adam Shootyperson wrote:I tried making maps but my problem is that, I think the map is good, then I try to make it better, better, better, better and it becomes a piece of s**t at the end Sad

Nothing substitutes practice mate, just keep trying and open up maps from other map makers too see what they do in their maps to improve them.
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Post by Adam Shootyperson Thu 24 Jun 2010, 2:59 am

Well... For me, making maps is just like drawing. You kinda have the talent for it. You can't really learn it, it's something you were born with Razz


It's like football, if you can't play football at 5, you will never be able to play it. Not even if Pele teaches you.

I tried following tutorials, but I just fail epicly =/
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Post by Aneurysm Thu 24 Jun 2010, 6:17 am

Adam Shootyperson wrote:Well... For me, making maps is just like drawing. You kinda have the talent for it. You can't really learn it, it's something you were born with Razz


It's like football, if you can't play football at 5, you will never be able to play it. Not even if Pele teaches you.

I tried following tutorials, but I just fail epicly =/

Pele is Pele because he got up everyday and practised. If he had kicked a football 1 or 2 times and said "I can't do this" then he never would have improved to be the player he was. Same can be said of drawing or map making or anything else you want to name. Yes some natural talent can make it easier, but nothing substitutes hard work or practice.

Persistence is key my friend!
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Post by Adam Shootyperson Thu 24 Jun 2010, 6:52 am

True that. I'll try Smile

But, I get frustrated when I fail. Ehehe.

Only thing I keep trying is football. That's the only thing I can keep doing without getting frustratde.

I'll just see map making like football and I'm sure it will be alright Very Happy
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Post by Envy Thu 24 Jun 2010, 12:06 pm

football is to adam as piano is to me. Hard it is, i still htry hard
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Post by Adam Shootyperson Thu 24 Jun 2010, 9:07 pm

I'm good at football because I like doing it.

I will find a way to LIKE/love doing maps. Starting today!
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Post by Aneurysm Fri 25 Jun 2010, 12:03 am

Well as I mentioned earlier guys, I have been working hard on a tutorial of late. Good news! its finished, feel free to check it out guys

http://www.newerth.com/smf/index.php/topic,10973.0.html
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Post by Adam Shootyperson Fri 25 Jun 2010, 5:39 am

Woah! Tutorial rocks + the screenshots
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Post by TNaismith Fri 25 Jun 2010, 5:42 am

That is one stellar, professional, and clean-looking document Aneurysm! Goodness, I only quickly skimmed through but that kind of tutorial is usually only seen in very organized, or professional settings (businesses, corporations, large-scale organizations). I'm very impressed, and will be including a link to your tutorial in a new topic for mapping I'll be creating soon.

Well done. For the level of writing, editing screenshots, placing captions, arrows, headings, etc....that all must have taken huge amounts of time. I myself will read this tutorial sometime in the future when I decide to try out mapping (just for my own amusement, not to make maps to actually submit for public servers.)

Well, well, very well done.
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Post by Aneurysm Fri 25 Jun 2010, 7:46 am

Thank you very much for the compliments. Oh and yes I would be lying if I said it didn't take me much time.
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